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I gave my new needles a really good workout today - nothing heavy, just wool tops and some organza. I have no problem with the results, other than I now only have 2 needles left out of a set of 10. I like the way they felt, and the speed they felt, but they just aren't strong enough for my punching technique. Not sure what I do wrong - wool tops are not tough to go through. It was always a multiple break - two or three needles shattering at once. This set was the triangular type. I have another set of size 40 (non triangular) - expect I will be using those tomorrow and will find out if they are any stronger. With these results I'd rather use the more expensive Janome needles, the larger holes they leave are not a problem compared to flying pieces of needle, and punching from both sides smooths them out anyway.